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Post by cuffit1 on Feb 15, 2010 15:24:27 GMT -5
Hi guys, I've been out of trapping for sometime now, but I am starting to try my hand at some coyote's. I have had very good luck in the past with dirt hole sets for fox. My question is are the set's set up the same way and whats the best lure or bait to use ? Any tips would would help out alot. Thanks
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Post by cooncrazy on Feb 15, 2010 15:32:08 GMT -5
I like to space my step stick, my pan, and my dirthole out a little bit when trapping coyotes, im not sure what most people use for bait but I use Slightly Tainted bobcat meat for coons, bobcats, coyotes, and foxes, seems to work good for me.
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Post by 7oaksfarm on Feb 15, 2010 19:52:09 GMT -5
The pan should be further from the hole since they are taller, like 10"-ish Bait-mice you have trapped around your house, Pauls Purrrrrfect or ANY other Paul Dobbins Products, there is a link on T-man, read what each lure is for. "Just Mice" from www.minntrapprod.com is another good bait. Hope this helps ole John
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Post by rye on Feb 16, 2010 21:39:17 GMT -5
I encountered an interesting lesson while setting the other day. I came across and intersection where a coyote had left a turd in the middle of the intersection. Given a it had rained the afternoon before, the ground was still soft enough to record tracks from other critters. The lesson came in the form of another coyote scent checking the turd. The soft ground perfectly recorded his actions and exactly how far off he stopped from the turd to smell it before turning off to the right and leaving the area. Distance was about 8-9 inches. (full spread from pinky to thumb on my hand.)
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Post by cuffit1 on Feb 16, 2010 22:35:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the help so far guy's. I have had a few traps set for 4-5 days now. They are set as you have described. We have seen coyotes in the fields they are in almost everyday and they are still not paying any attention (that we can tell). The traps are new but have been dipped in Formula one and allowed to dry we have used rubber gloves and boots while at sets. We are using deer meat in the set's still no luck. Any ideas? ? Thanks
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Post by UncleFester on Feb 17, 2010 3:30:55 GMT -5
A yote is going to work a flat set different than he will a dirt hole, with that said the set I make is going to dictate spacing of the trap from the attractor.
A dirt hole set the yote is looking for something to eat. If he likes what he smells down the hole he is going to be all over the pattern. So on dirt holes I run my traps up tight to the hole because ultimately that is where his feet are going to be when he is digging. Give him a bait that will make it worth his while to expend the energy to get at it, at a minnimum a fist size peice of bait down a deep hole so he has to work at it to get it.
On a flat set, they come in sniff, see who is in their territory and roll out. I like to use natural backings and guiding like tufts of grass. Try to visualize where he will place his feet, normally like Rye said around 8-10" from the attractor. Sometimes more or less depending on the location or the set itself.
If you miss a critter study the area, look at the sign he left, and figure out what the animal is telling you.
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Post by rye on Feb 17, 2010 8:31:43 GMT -5
Cuff
How tainted (soured) is the meat you are using? If it is too fresh or not been allowed to rot any, it won't have as much smell/appeal. What lure are you using?
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Post by cuffit1 on Feb 17, 2010 22:48:04 GMT -5
That may be the problem. It's only been out of the freezer a few day's. I have not used any lure as of yet.
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Post by rye on Feb 18, 2010 8:03:02 GMT -5
Yeup.. thats the problem... canines work off of scent to locate food. You aren't giving them any indicators that what you have is there.
You need to find a way to rot the meat a bit, and and in some lure (just a smear worth) on a small stick placed above the entrance to the dirt hole or on the backing.
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