Snares for coyotes

[crc]

Is there a chance the legislature would consider a bill to legalize snares for coyotes?

[Ldsoldier]

I think it would be ill-advised to limit them to coyotes, especially when the people who got them banned are concerned about a creature about the same size, namely the walker hound (a.k.a. fox hound). If you try to legalize snares you might as well go for the whole kit-n-kaboodle.

[biscuit]

It would be a dream come true! Coyote are easy to cable, and you can do it in a way to keep them alive for the pens.

[hartzog69]

i think that would be awesome

[hamman]

fat chance that will happen anytime soon with the houndsman coming out to the NCWRC meetings in droves like Beaverstop said they did. For the changes we want to happen we would all have to come out to the meetings. I didn't make it to my districts meeting because I was sick but I did go online and voice my opinions.

I too would love to be able to cable animals, especially yotes. I am on a ADC job right now where coyotes are going under woven wire fences to kill sheep and eat the newborn lambs. It would be SOOOO simple to put a snare around there neck but it is, as you know, against the law to do so. IT SUCKS!

[rye]

blind set under the fence?

[buzzard]

It would be SOOOO simple to put a snare around there neck but it is, as you know, against the law to do so. IT SUCKS!





Hamman,

that is exactly why folks like you should NOT have a ADC license, you dont think at all and really have no buisness taking money from the public because of your inexperience and lack of good judgement.

[hamman]

What about my statement is false that you have a problem with and why do you feel it is necessary to judge someones experience trapping that you have only met once and spoke to less than 30 minutes? You just don't like me for some reason do you.
Yes, I said it would be simple and i made that statement from reading books, looking at videos and talking to folks that have done it. I have never trapped a county that allowed snares for anything other than beaver. I had problems snaring beavers at first but I LEARNED and how have very few problems doing so. From the looks of it yotes don't appear they would be any more difficult to get to go through a snare when they are already coming in contact with wire every time they crawl under the fences. But hey, I don't know nothing about it personally because I have never done it, IT'S ILLEGAL in all but 2 or 3 counties in NC. I am sure in your many years of trapping you have probably been somewhere where you can snare coyotes and actually snared a few coyotes or tried. You must have or else you wouldn't be so critical of my comment about it being easy. So if you have did it, it just looks easy to me because i haven't been allowed the opprotunity to try it, and I am sorry that I offended you in some way.

And as far as the ADC license goes, I have as much right as you to own a ADC license. You have more years of experience than me, I admit that, I am still a young man compared to you. I have only been trapping since I was about 12 or 13 and now i am 29. 16 years of fur trapping off and on can't compare to your many years of 365 days a year trapping for a living. IF i trapped each year for 35 days during the regular trapping season it would barely add up to 1 1/2 years of daily trapping under your ADC license. I obviously don't have your experience but I am not as grumpy, judgemental and set in my ways as you either.

I am on the side of the fur trapper, plain and simple. I don't like all this judgemental crap that you like to toss out at me and other members of this board when someone pisses in your cornflakes and we didn't even see your bowl. I do my best to represent the NCTA in a manner that is upstanding and law abiding.

[northof50]

From the Canadian prespective, with the lamb robbing yote, place a electric fence 1 ft around the outside fence, 1 foot hieght.... leave a 20yd. space..........and leave 1 trap per yard. If they have a boarder collie use a electic collar on it, and zap it 20 yds from the set. You only have to teach collies once. For years to come the yote alley will keep producing. Solar electic fences are going 150$ up here. Thats the same price as a lost Easter lambs prices paid by the Greeks trade. We can use power snares up here but trained live collies are going for $ 2000.

[buzzard]

Hamman,

It has nothing to do w/ whether I like you or not, your questions and post reflect what you are and what you are not.......

Your dang right , I am judgemental ..............especially of ignorance.


There is nothing false about your statement........my problem is if it was legal , you would do it and more than likly kill some deer and maybe a dog in Fox 8's back yard.........the consequence of your inexperience in knowing situational ethics will hurt us all.

Im done w/ you...............

[hamman]

my final comments as well:

If it was legal we would all have to have deerstops on the snares and obviously a deer aint going to crawl under a digout just big enough for a coyote on a 4ft woven fence when it can as easly jump it. ON top of that if a deer is actually using it you can, I assume, tell the difference as I can in deer back hair and coyote back hair, not to mention the tracks from constant use. Your right, you have to use your head and I do on every job, for pay or for the fun and experience of it.

As for the dog issue...show me a trap or scent that will attract and catch a coyote and not a dog and I will show you someones retirement plan. I would not set anything but a live trapping device in somones back yard. there are a few options to take a coyote in a resedential area depending on the neighborhood.
And lastly, I have more "situational ethics" in my pinky finger than a bunch of people that have held ADC license for many, many years have in there intire body. Before you get hot under the collar that last sentance was NOT aimed at you or about you in any way, shape or form because as I said earlier, I hardly know you and I have never rode with you on your trapline to see how you work. I have met other folks that hold ADC license and spent some time with them and a very small number of them are just plain croocked and dishoniest. ITs like everything else, there are bad apples in everything you may get involved in.

[mountainman]

I'm planning and working on a full scale operation mainly for cats. Recent improvements in regs certainly help. My first line of defence against problems with dogs is knowledge of the areas, where and when to avoid houndsmen and hikers w/dogs. Second line defence- dog proof methods. I'm not hearing anything from wardens about complaints. I plan to keep it that way.

Trapping is a chess match with mother nature.

[beaverstop]

MM

I hope that you have to learn dog proof coon trapping methods in 2009. Looking forward to sitting down with you at the Spring Fling.

Jimmy

[TrapperTod]

beaverstop said:

MM

dog proof coon trapping methods in 2009.
Jimmy

That could be a demo topic for sure, steps to take in order to avoid non-target catches

[buzzard]

Jimmy,

fawns of the year do not jump 4 foot fences and neither do fox..........