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Post by biscuit on May 15, 2008 8:41:20 GMT -5
I have a guy that wants me to trap a coyote from his farm, he found out the season comes in in 2 weeks. Can I trap without the fear of catching a coon or a fox? I dont want to set this early, but I dont want to loose the farm either. Any suggestions?
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Post by lostyournoodle1 on May 15, 2008 8:54:06 GMT -5
IF POSSIBLE USE SOFT CATCH TRAPS, ALOT OF THE TIME YOU WILL HAVE LITTLE TO NO DAMAGE. THE VICTOR 1 1/2 SC HAS HELD COYOTES FOR ME IF SET UP CORRECTLY. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A CATCH POLE FOR SMOOTH RELEASE.GIVE ME A CALL WHEN YOU SEE THIS BISCUIT, I WAS SETTING A MUSKRAT JOB YESTERDAY AND LEFT MY PHONE AT THE OFFICE.
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Post by biscuit on May 15, 2008 11:14:08 GMT -5
SC traps are a must but I would like opinion as to NOT catch coons or fox, is the likelyhood of a set in the middle of a pasture produceing nontargets?
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Post by lostyournoodle1 on May 15, 2008 11:59:58 GMT -5
IF YOU DO SET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD I WOULD USE A VERY MILD LURE, NOTHING SKUNKY! THAT SHOULD CUT YOUR CHANCES OF NONTARGET CATCHES.
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Post by biscuit on May 15, 2008 13:26:26 GMT -5
What do you think Buzzard?
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Post by Bottomline on May 15, 2008 14:30:46 GMT -5
You ARE gonna catch fox when setting for coyotes. You can miss some coon like noodleman said, but don't think you are gonna stay completely away from the fox.
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Post by TrapperTod on May 15, 2008 14:49:06 GMT -5
I would set it like rodney showed us at the spring fling, and there may be some pics floating around of the set. I remember that he used very little if any backing, I think maybe he dug the hole and used a rock for a step over. Very simple set even though I have yet to catch a yote.
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Post by biscuit on May 15, 2008 15:04:41 GMT -5
I hate to educate fox, I will be back in there in the winter.
There are not many reds around, but alot of greys are on the farm i might set up some cameras and see if I can find out where they are hanging around and then make my move.
Will the pens take them in the summer??
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Post by Bottomline on May 15, 2008 15:27:30 GMT -5
Will the pens take them in the summer?? Yes It is easier to miss coyotes by blocking heavy and make them feel hesitant about coming in........although they sometimes still do. On the other hand, and grey fox will check it out with alot of blocking as well as a set with very little blocking/backing. |
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Post by beaverstop on May 15, 2008 16:44:21 GMT -5
I am guessing that you are able to trap coyotes due to there being a local law fox season there and coyote season is otherwise closed. This bring up another question and quandry for me.
Why do we trap fox in the heat of summer when fur is worthless and young are just out of the den? Fox easily succomb to heat stress in a short time and die in the trap. Young are still in tight groups and are easily caught. Let me guess- to keep the fox pens stocked.
What I am about to say is in no way to be construed as being the official opinion of the NCTA, its board of directors or officers. This is my strongly held personal opinion. I believe that summer trapping of fox is detrimental to the resource and is based solely on the wants of the fox pens and trappers who have stocking them and the resulting few dollars in their pocket as a priority. In addition, it brings the scrutiny on the live market right now more into focus. The live market is about the most profitable outlet for the trapper, but we must keep this in the proper perspective. TRAPPING, and the preservation of trapping, is far more important than stocking a few fox pens. The resulting publicity will stir an ill wind.
We have some very important issues that are in the works right now. One blemish on trappers can kill it as those with authority will not be tarred by that brush.
I have a functoin to go to now. Maybe I'll add more later.
Sorry to offend anyone, but try to see the big picture.
Jimmy
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Post by varmintshooter on May 15, 2008 18:13:43 GMT -5
Jimmy I agree with you. Trapping is a sound wildlife management tool used by wildlife agencies just like hunting is used. If we start trapping just for profit at times of the year when fur is bad and young are still nursing or still with their mother we will lose the perspective of being good stewards of our natural resources. The general public won't stand for that kind disregard for a resource. If this animal is depredation then this is a different subject.
Biscuit if the farmer has a depredation coyote, then bait it up and shoot it during the day light hours. If it's not talk him into waiting till Nov.
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Post by UncleFester on May 15, 2008 19:05:50 GMT -5
What season opens up in 2 weeks? Am I missing something?
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Post by bmlutra on May 15, 2008 19:25:22 GMT -5
You're not offending me! To me trapping fur animals in the heat of summer is crazy unless it is a lagitamate adc job that pays for the work.
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Post by Bottomline on May 15, 2008 19:53:39 GMT -5
I think fox season opens June 1st in some counties Sean.
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Post by obxfishnuts on May 15, 2008 21:44:20 GMT -5
I have to agree with Jimmy. I think he hit the nail on the head on that one.
I need a dollar the same as the next man trapping to pay for food, medicines for the kids, that LIQUID GOLD they call unleaded, etc. but it's not worth it to me to make a dollar and take a chance at losing far more than that in the long run for us all. Just my 2 cents.
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