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Post by buzzard on Mar 5, 2008 19:45:42 GMT -5
Suthern flat coat coon averaged 20 bucks at NAFA today...........next year will be a nightmare !
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Post by mountainman on Mar 5, 2008 23:23:22 GMT -5
Sounds good. Thanks Jimmy. Looking forward to it myself.
$20 southern coons. Sounds interesting Buzzard. Even if just a bump it would likely put more trappers in the field. I've been trying to look ahead before the next hayday as I'm sure others have. I remember when everybody and his brother were trapping rats and about everything else. It was tough to get permission and they even sold traps (Northwoods) at Woolworth's in the Asheville Mall.........
A reasonably stable market we can work with is good enough for me.
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Post by beaverstop on Mar 6, 2008 16:00:46 GMT -5
Please understand, he cannot trap coons now. I am referring to a coon trapping season.
I understand about fences and critters. Over, under or through- whatever strikes his fancy at the time. I cannot tell dog hair from coyote hair on a fence. I caught all colors this season from red to black- coyotes and dogs both. The puppy dogs went on their merry way.
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Post by buzzard on Mar 6, 2008 16:07:06 GMT -5
Can you tell the difference in coyote/dog tracks Jimmy ?
I cant........and nobody I know can either
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Post by northof50 on Mar 6, 2008 18:44:35 GMT -5
Come up north and I'll train you in the snow it's easy under 5 layers of clothing.joke..joke
Coyotes waste no energy and always have a straight line if you can see that in the soil, and paws are always closed on their trotting. Dogs are all over the place and paws opened and sprawed once and a while.
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Post by beaverstop on Mar 6, 2008 19:35:13 GMT -5
Yep, I can distinguish tracks. Once you get the hang of it, they just jump out at you. Sometimes the type of soil-mud in an area does not take a good track. I'm not 100% accurate, but right more often than wrong.
Like 50 said, dogs are usually everywhere. Pairs or more weave about and cross the intended direction of travel several times. Yotes usually run together in a straight line towards the objective. I have seen them dig in and make sudden turns, usually to chase something. I tracked a pair across a plowed field this fall and saw where they chased a smaller set of tracks into heavy cover. My guess was that they were after a fox who made good his escape. I have also seen where they got after a deer.
I guess that I am bored. I spend lots of time out just looking about. Beats sitting in the house watching The Flintstones.
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Post by Ldsoldier on Mar 6, 2008 20:52:03 GMT -5
My dad taught me that coyote tracks are generally more oval, kind of like a fox. A domestic dog are generally more rounded.
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Post by buzzard on Mar 6, 2008 21:05:34 GMT -5
Y'all are better than me.........I gave up trying w/ Asa Lenon said it was next to impossible w/ same size tracks.
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Post by northof50 on Mar 6, 2008 21:20:50 GMT -5
Yup you were right beaverstop them yotes were after that fox, the only fox we have left up here is in heavy willow cover, such a shame the balance changed, foxes were a lot easier to prep. and get more money. If they are after deer then one yote pushes and the others go to the chock point and wait........................WILMA.............just for those Flintstones watchers...................................................another reason I like trapping , being out there.
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Post by mountainman on Mar 7, 2008 5:22:32 GMT -5
Yote tracks are a little different than dog tracks, a little more oval shaped and the middle toes stick out more but there close enough alike that it can be tough to be sure w/o a clear track. Sometimes I'm not at all sure and try to find better sign or figure it out by how they're running the area. In a lot of the terrain I run there simply arent any easy to find tracks, maybe just some worn trails in places, a few yote tracks or scat in some of the logging roads and trails worn down more than what a few cats would do. That dont make me any better Buzzard. I'll bet you've caught more yotes than I have, maybe cats too. That thing you did to catch cats w/soda bottles in the marsh, pretty darn slick man. Wish I'd thought of that. I'm thinking that might just be a real good mink set too. Got some places in mind to try that when I can. Never know, sometimes there might be a cat around the edge of marshy places in the mountains. They definitely run some of the creek and river banks. If some of them hadn't hit baited mink sets I'd never have known they were there.
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Post by TrapperTod on Mar 7, 2008 7:44:20 GMT -5
Beats sitting in the house watching The Flintstones.[/quote] Come on now, you can't think that I believe that you watch the flintstones. mountainman - is there a link to a post on here about the bottle thing you were talking about for cats, I would love to read it.
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Post by mountainman on Mar 7, 2008 14:49:15 GMT -5
Yep, looking about sure beats watching the Flintstones. I'll be out more this summer doing that, working on trails and access points, cutting drags etc.
Jlcjtc, I lost the link I had saved when my mother board croaked a while back and couldnt find it by searching. I believe Buzzy posted that on T-man. Imo a very ingenious idea. He caught some nice cats w/ that set. Theres lots of shallow sandbars and small islands that mink hit on in their travels, steep sandy banks where dirtholes tend to cave in...
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Post by hartzog69 on Mar 7, 2008 18:56:18 GMT -5
it would be cool to be able to see it become legal in nc!
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Post by bmlutra on Mar 7, 2008 20:57:24 GMT -5
A dogs foot is usually oversized for its body. A beagle can have a bigger track than a coyote. Their foot spreads out more and looks loose. Fox and coyote tracks are more compact. If its a lab,coon or deer dog track it will be a very large looking track. Sometimes I go behind dogs and look at their track, it helps to compare. I also have nothing better to do.
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Post by Bottomline on Mar 7, 2008 21:30:33 GMT -5
Yotes usually show their toenails where dogs don't. There tracks are oval instead of round.
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